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Oddly specific questions you might be asking when borrowing for law school.

When I say specific, I mean pretty specific, explore at your own risk of wasting some time.
Jun 25, 2022

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  1. I am not a US citizen or permanent resident but I still need to borrow for school. What can I do?
  2. My school says I should just take out federal student loans. Why would I consider private loans?
  3. Do I have to pay my law school loans while I clerk?
  4. What does IDR (income driven repayment) mean?
  5. Public Student Loan Forgiveness seems like an awesome option, why doesn’t everyone plan to use it?
  6. What is a Loan Repayment Assistance Program, and does my school have one?
  7. I am thinking about going to a school that offers an LRAP, what should I ask?
  8. I have an offer from a school with an LRAP and I have an offer from a school with a scholarship. Which is better?
  9. Related Articles


I am not a US citizen or permanent resident but I still need to borrow for school. What can I do? 

Note: If you are a DACA recipient, unfortunately you cannot get federal loans (as of June 2022), but some private lenders will loan you funds as if you are a US citizen. Feel free to reach us via email at DACA@lsd.law to discuss!


  1. Frankly, you are in a tougher spot when it comes to borrowing than others. 
  2. If you have someone who is a US citizen/resident who will cosign on your loan, then you can borrow with most private lenders (and all of our partner lenders). 
  3. If you do not have someone who can cosign, then we recommend these options: 


  1. Reach out to your university, or the international student’s club. This will be a great place to get some school specific information. 
  2. Look for borrowing options in your home country that will cover US education. 
  3. Check out US-based lenders that cater to international students. Keep in mind that these lenders know that you are in a hard spot (and people occasionally stop paying their loans and leave the country) so they have higher fees and interest rates than those for US citizens.
  4. Find a lender who will give you a personal loan (vs a student loan) and pay the school directly. A hard thing here is that you will have to start making full monthly payments immediately after you get the money, meaning while you are still in school. 


My school says I should just take out federal student loans. Why would I consider private loans?

  1. Federal loans have great perks, like being able to take advantage of programs such as Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF), Income Based Repayment (IBR), and Revised Pay As You Earn (REPAYE), and there is a chance that some of all of them could be forgiven in the future depending on about 12,000 political factors.
  2. Since public loans have these perks, private loans should only be considered if you can’t qualify for federal loans, or if you can save money from private loans by getting better terms. If you want to check out some private lenders and compare rates you can check out our calculator here that will let you compare options.


Do I have to pay my law school loans while I clerk?

  1. For federal loans you can switch to an income based repayment plan while you Clerk to reduce your payment. On this plan you only have to pay a fixed percentage of your disposable income. You can learn more about IBR from the federal government, here.
  2. As of right now, only a few private lenders offer a guarantee of full deferral while you Clerk, and those only offer it for 12 months, so you will have to start payments if you do more than one clerkship. However, some private lenders are willing to work with individuals on a case-by-case basis. They want you to pay your loans even more than you want to.  
  3. Keep in mind that anytime you defer your loans (or make payments lower than your minimum monthly payment), you will be accruing more interest than you would otherwise and the total price you pay for your loans will be higher than if you made consistent payments.


What does IDR (income driven repayment) mean?

  1. These are federal programs that allow you to pay a certain amount on student loans each month based on how much you make. Each type of IDR has different rules, and you can learn more, here.
  2. While you are on an IDR plan, you will still accrue interest based on your interest rate. So if your loan accrues $300 a month in interest, and your payment is only $200, then the balance of your loan will go UP by $100 every month. 


Public Student Loan Forgiveness seems like an awesome option, why doesn’t everyone plan to use it?

  1. To learn more about PSLF from the government, you can go here.
  2. An important note: PSLF is only for federal loans. If you borrow with a private lender or refinance with a private lender, then PSLF is no longer an option. 
  3. PSLF is an amazing program and it is vital that you understand the program if you have federal loans. One major challenge is that there are quite a few requirements you have to meet in order to take advantage of the program. We are a small operation and keeping all the requirements up to date would be tough, so we recommend checking out the above link to learn more.  
  4. A quick summary of things that are unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. In order to use PSLF, you have to qualify for an income driven repayment plan and you have to work for a qualifying employer and you have to do both of these (and other stuff) for 120 payments (at least 10 years). 
  5. So when should you consider PSLF as you plan? 
  6. We are not tax, financial, or legal advisors so you should seek out a professional if you have questions.
  7. You can qualify for income driven repayment plans regardless of who you work for, but you can only take advantage of PSLF if you work for a ‘qualified employer’. Therefore, you should definitely consider PSLF if you are deciding between being employed by a ‘qualified employer’ and a non-’qualified employer.’ In this scenario, your choice of employer may be the only thing that keeps you from using PSLF and you should take that fact into consideration in your decision making. 
  8. A brief piece of unsolicited advice: It is important to plan for the long term when considering IDRs and PSLF. If you are deciding between a ‘qualified employer’ and a non-’qualified employer’ then you should project out your future earnings across all 120 payments, and not just what you will be making the first year. This is a long way of saying that your future earnings from a non-’qualified employer’ might be higher than a ‘qualified employer’ AKA raises might be bigger with private companies vs the government. This is written with love from someone who worked for the federal government for about 10 years.


What is a Loan Repayment Assistance Program, and does my school have one?

  1. Note: these programs are sometimes called LIPP or Low Income Protection Program.
  2. Loan Repayment Assistance Programs, or LRAP, are university sponsored (paid for) programs where Universities help their students pay for loans. This is essentially a kind of financial aid, but it is based on after school instead of before school.
  3. Every LRAP program is slightly different and only a few schools offer them, but we expect that this number will increase over time. 


I am thinking about going to a school that offers an LRAP, what should I ask?

  1. I went to some admitted student’s weekends with my Partner, and after 3 or 4 90-minute presentations on LRAPs I realized that law schools aren’t super good at getting to the point. 
  2. Of course the questions you should ask depend on your specific situation BUT some things you should know at a minimum before choosing a school:
  3. Does the LRAP apply to private and public loans?
  4. How much (or how little) can I make and still take advantage of the LRAP?
  5. Does the LRAP only apply to certain types of employers?
  6. Is the LRAP limited based on the type of work I am doing? 


I have an offer from a school with an LRAP and I have an offer from a school with a scholarship. Which is better?

  1. Good question. We would love to make a calculator that helps you figure that out. Unfortunately, every school has a different LRAP threshold so it’s hard to put into a calculator, but we are working on figuring it out. 
  2. For individuals, we would recommend:


  1. Think about how much you will have to borrow with and without the scholarships
  2. Assume that you will make the median of what the schools’ graduates make (link) 
  3. Ask the school with the LRAP how much they will help with loans assuming you make the median amount. 
  4. Look at your take home pay (after paying student loans) for the next 10 years
  5. See which school is a better financial deal after 10 years
  6. Chose which school you like more with this in mind 


  1. How should I Choose a Student Loan?
  2. What is an Origination Fee? Plus Other Terms you Should Know when Borrowing for Law School?
  3. What Law School should I go to?


Windsor MIT '22, Harvard College Advisor

I am the half of LSD that didn't take the LSAT, or go to law school (Sorry about that). But I did go to MIT business school while surrounded by law students and lawyers, so I am somewhat qualified to talk about the intricacies of law school apps and finances.

Windsor (the dog) didn't write this but he WAS a Resident Tutor and career advisor at Harvard College with me, so deserves some credit.

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