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enumerated motion

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A quick definition of enumerated motion:

Enumerated Motion: A type of motion that is listed or numbered. An example of this is when someone proposes a specific action to be taken during a meeting and it is given a number or name to make it easier to refer to.

A more thorough explanation:

Definition: A motion that is specifically listed or numbered in a set of rules or procedures. It is a motion that has been given a specific name or title.

Example: In a parliamentary procedure, a motion to adjourn is an enumerated motion because it is specifically listed as a motion that can be made during a meeting.

This example illustrates that an enumerated motion is a motion that is specifically named or listed in a set of rules or procedures. It is not a general motion that can be made at any time, but rather a motion that has a specific purpose and is recognized as such.

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SplitterusClitterus

12:42

my washu banner came back does this mean anything

FormerLN

12:42

I work with a bunch of them. It's a decent option if you know what you're getting into. But it doesn't pay BL salary or anything.

OvertReconditeSpider

12:42

i thought about doing JAG... but nah i dont think i will

BulbasaurNoLikeCardio

12:43

The military is a stepping stone that you can and should use to pivot or spring board to change your life. The pay sucks but playing it right the benefits will skyrocket you.

HopefullyInLawSchool

12:43

@FormerLN: is JAG worth it for beenfits?

LSDFan

12:43

Only join the military for the GI bill

OvertReconditeSpider

12:43

how much does JAG pay?

LSDFan

12:43

You come in as a first lieutenant

BulbasaurNoLikeCardio

12:44

Yes but you should be receiving additional pay to compete with the outside like Nurses, PAs, Docs and Cyber officers get

SplitterusClitterus

12:44

did yalls columbia app take weeks to go complete i applied early nov and my app still isnt complete

FormerLN

12:44

A lot of the JAGs I know are either riding it out to 20 years for the pension, or they get out after 4 years. Mostly prosecutor or AUSA type stuff.

OvertReconditeSpider

12:45

idk if im even eligible for JAG because of dual citizenship

HopefullyInLawSchool

12:45

Can JAG be used as a way to get into other legal careers?

BulbasaurNoLikeCardio

12:46

The pension is worth while on the officer side but is ass for enlisted. If you join the military knowing how shit it can be and being willing to deal with the culture it isn't bad. Joining thinking every commander is captain America and you will be hooah hooah leads to disappointment

FormerLN

12:46

At least on the Navy side. You come in as an O2, promote to O3 after a year. near-auto advance to O4 if you stay in long enough. Your BAH is nontaxable income.

OvertReconditeSpider

12:46

oh yeah you cant be a dual citizen and do JAG. welp nvm then

BulbasaurNoLikeCardio

12:46

@OvertReconditeSpider: depends on the country but may have to give it up for clearance

FormerLN

12:47

There seems to be a good demand for criminal defense attorneys with JAG experience. Most of them are retired JAGs, and they represent service members at ADSEP boards and courts-martial. They make bank around here but it is a really niche area.

OvertReconditeSpider

12:47

nah im not giving up EU citizenship... early retirement in low COL country >

BulbasaurNoLikeCardio

12:48

@HopefullyInLawSchool: JAG is like any other attorney job maybe network to score government work but its just being an attorney in camouflage.

FormerLN

12:48

Basically. There are some interesting practice areas. But it does come with all the regular military BS.

HopefullyInLawSchool

12:49

after 4 years you get full military benefits for life?

FormerLN

12:50

After 4 years you get GI bill, certain other VA benefits. But you gotta do the full 20 to get a pension and keep your free medical benefits.

HopefullyInLawSchool

12:50

ohhh so medical is only free if youre in 20 years

OvertReconditeSpider

12:50

does GI bill only pay for future education or does it cover law school loans?

FormerLN

12:51

Some JAGs I know stay in for ~8 years, get their LLM for free, and then dip out to work in government agency. One from this area went on to go teach at Baylor

BulbasaurNoLikeCardio

12:52

Maybe, Jags may have a 6yr+ ADSO not 4. You will get benefits like the VA Home Loan and GI Bill. A lot of the others are locked behind medical/disability rating and making it to retirement. I did 12 years but got medically retired so my depends and I have health insurance forever for free. GI Bill is for future education but you can sign an extended ADSO that will repay student debt but it comes with additional years that are at least paid.

FormerLN

12:53

So there's the PSLF that will forgive pre-service loans after 10 years of service. Those 10 years can be any combo of qualifying military or civil public service I believe. Each branch has their own education incentives. The Navy gives a retention bonus after 4 years of I think like $40k to agree to serve an additional couple of years.

OvertReconditeSpider

12:53

ah i see... does JAG qualify for PSLF?

FormerLN

12:53

yes it does

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