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excessive fines

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A quick definition of excessive fines:

Excessive fines are when someone is punished with too much money or property taken away from them. The government can punish people for breaking the law, but they can't take away too much money or property. The Eighth Amendment protects people from excessive fines, and courts have to think about how much money or property the person has and how hard it will be for them to pay the fine. Sometimes, the government takes away too much money or property, and that's not fair. The court has to make sure the punishment fits the crime.

A more thorough explanation:

Excessive fines refer to monetary penalties or forfeitures of property that are deemed to be grossly disproportionate to the crime committed. The Eighth Amendment of the United States Constitution protects against excessive fines, both in criminal and civil cases.

  • In United States v. Bajakajian, a defendant was required to forfeit the entire $357,144 he used in connection with bulk cash smuggling. The court determined the fine was unconstitutional, reasoning that the forfeiture was grossly disproportionate to the crime.
  • In United States v. Jose, the court considered whether the forfeiture of the entire $114,948 used for bulk cash smuggling was grossly disproportional to the crime. The court determined that it was not.

These examples illustrate how the courts determine whether a fine is excessive or not. They consider factors such as the defendant's financial resources, the burden of the fine, and the harm caused by the defendant. If a fine is deemed to be grossly disproportionate to the crime committed, it violates the Eighth Amendment's protection against excessive fines.

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@lilypadfrog: that’s a pity I’da be liking them all
texaslawhopefully
22:31
Only food I’m going to miss for sure if I leave Texas is texmex
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waspy hasnt had thai food in ithaca yet. ithaca thai is so good
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there are two major thai places and they have very similar names bc a divorced husband and wife own them lol
22:32
personally i think taste of thai is better than taste of thai express but thats just me
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texaslawhopefully
22:32
Glad they have good Thai food, I love Thai food! Can’t wait to visit :)
22:33
when tex goes to ithaca i want to come
Dkk
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Crying Tiger, best Thai dish.
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curry tonkatsu so yummeh
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whats even open rn? pizza?
CTB is it i think
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is collegetown pizza not open
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i used to get a slice from there or wings over at like 1am after my shift at the restaurant
Dkk
22:48
Ross Ulbricht free. God Bless Trump. Huge win.
JeremyFragrance
22:54
agreed
texaslawhopefully
22:55
This is an interesting read: https://thedispatch.com/article/birthright-citizenship-trump-implications/
Dkk
23:01
I mean, idk how it's possible to end birth right citizenship without amending the constitution because to me the 14th amendment is pretty clear about it.
ross ulbricht tried to hire a hitman to kill 5 people
i am not that sympathetic to him
Dkk
23:04
@KnowledgeableRitzyWasp: That might have been an FBI agent. It was most likely him and he was most likely doing it to retrieve stolen funds that corrupt FBI agents stole, but yeah moral gray area but me personally, cool with hitmen. It's not like it is uncommon to hire hitmen. I don't think the action itself is necessarily wrong but the intent behind it can be.
Dkk
23:05
Like, Boeing whistblowers being killed by hitmen = wrong but a guy hiring hitmen to retrieve stolen funds = good to me.
texaslawhopefully
23:05
@Dkk: Yeah, for sure. My guess is it'll go to SCOTUS and it'll be 8-1 or 7-2, saying that EO was unconstitutional.
Dkk
23:06
Indeed. I need a count for how many exectuive orders he has signed and how many already have pending lawsuits.
i've been away for a while what were the most recent waves? any this week?
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