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renvoi

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A quick definition of renvoi:

Term: Renvoi

Definition: Renvoi is a legal doctrine that means when a court looks at foreign law, it also considers the foreign law's conflict-of-laws principles, which may refer the court back to the law of the forum. This can create a problem when one state's rule on conflict of laws refers a case to the law of another state, and that second state's conflict-of-law rule refers the case either back to the law of the first state or to a third state.

A more thorough explanation:

Definition: Renvoi (ren-voy), n. [French “sending back”]

  1. The doctrine under which a court in resorting to foreign law adopts as well the foreign law's conflict-of-laws principles, which may in turn refer the court back to the law of the forum.
  2. The problem arising when one state's rule on conflict of laws refers a case to the law of another state, and that second state's conflict-of-law rule refers the case either back to the law of the first state or to a third state. See CONFLICT OF LAWS.
  3. RECONDUCTION(2).

Explanation: Renvoi is a legal term that refers to the situation where a court in one country has to apply the law of another country to a case. In such cases, the court may also have to apply the conflict-of-laws principles of the foreign country, which may refer the court back to the law of the forum. This can create a problem when the foreign country's conflict-of-law rule refers the case back to the law of the first country or to a third country. This is known as the problem of renvoi.

Example: An example of renvoi can be seen in a case where a court in the United States has to apply the law of France to a case. The court may also have to apply the conflict-of-laws principles of France, which may refer the court back to the law of the United States. This can create a problem if the conflict-of-laws rule of France refers the case back to the law of the United States or to a third country.

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17:42
@KnowledgeableRitzyWasp: thats very ithica of you, wasp.
texaslawhopefully
17:44
@KnowledgeableRitzyWasp: Out of curiosity, since you're in law school and prolly know fedsoc people, how conservative do you think you have to be to be in fedsoc? Like is a david french sort of conservative fairly common in it, or is it the maga type people mainly
i dont interact with any fedsoc people, but i dont know any maga people at cornell. but the student body overwhelmingly leans left, so i think they might not be comfortable showing that theyre conservative if that makes sense?
one time a guy kind of crashed out about masks in conlaw
but that's the most ive seen
texaslawhopefully
17:47
Yeah, that does make sense. I would like to join fedsoc, but I'm also, clearly, very opposed to Trump and where the GOP has gone.
if you join fedsoc and go for clerking and eventually become a judge. you will be pinholed into maga politics as long as maga is the predominant conservative stance
Idk if @irishdinosaur is online but congrats on UCLA!!
next you will say you want to be the first black kkk grand wizard
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texaslawhopefully
18:00
yes congrats irishdinosaur! that's incredible
18:03
@IrishDinosaur: you inspire me and my completely misguided cope that I might ever get into UCLA
Super big congrats irish!!!
Also pretty much agree with Wasp. I think it’s more about getting the political/judicial position as a Fedsoc member that will likely require a stance siding with whatever the conservative majority party is at that time.
texaslawhopefully
18:07
Yeah, that's fair. I guess I need to think about it more assuming I start law school in the fall. I really want to clerk and that seems like the best option.
BUT i think once you get the position, you’ll have more leeway in making decisions more liberally. Sort of like how ACB and Gorsuch sometimes swing left after being portreayed in the media as far right (not sure if that was actually the case though).
From the perspective of someone who interned at the White House, I will add that my bosses always told me to “be careful about my resume.” Don’t want to align with any org that doesn’t fit your values because you won’t be trusted by the other side until you show them you’re legit again, and word travels in DC.
texaslawhopefully
18:10
I mean I highly highly doubt I'll become a federal judge, it's more just about getting a leg up in getting opportunities in the first place
Not sure how that true that is in practice and sorry for the long messages💀
texaslawhopefully
18:10
And, yeah, that's fair. Right now my resume probably looks like it's from someone who is center-right
Honestly, it just depends on your values. If you ever see yourself being a dem member in any capacity, then MAYBE stay away. But like you just said, there’s a possibility to look moderate with the right WE post law school.
texaslawhopefully
18:12
Yeah, that's true as well. As a side note, it's very cool you interned with the white house, I know those internships are incredibly hard to get
Dkk
18:12
A lot of conservativism right now is also just be as aggressive and unwilling to compromise in decision making right now because the left is out there in lets appeal to 1% of the population land so proposals brought to the table by them are 1, insane and 2, all or nothing proposals with no compromise.
Dkk
18:12
It's a bad time to be partisan really in any way.
I had to apply 4 times and got off the WL so I barely got it. It was a cool exp but def not any work crazier than you would see on capitol hill or any political org imo.
texaslawhopefully
18:14
It def looks great on your resume though
Yeah thats why i did it😂 it was a crazy time bcuz i had to commute from 2 hrs away since i was paying rent in madison and i couldnt afford another apt in DC
Never again.
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