i feel like you say that and then you watch one die in short order and close proximity and it kinda misses you up
[]texaslawhopefully
23:33
@atwatodbit: I mean this isn’t me personally, but I know my dad kinda cut his dad off because of a drinking + gambling problem—his dad is not white. And I’ve also never seen my dad drink so I’m assuming there’s def an impact.
babycat
23:33
@atwatodbit: I come from a long line of alcoholics and feel as though I am actively watching my father die of it despite being rehabbed before.
atwatodbit
23:35
yeah same!! my family is super white. feel guilty for not doing more for the people i saw die. but this is what lsd.law chat is for right? confronting the unconfronted?
babycat
23:37
also super white. and we’ve tried really hard to help him but he lies and hides things and there’s only so much you can do. he was still drinking while taking that medication that makes you nauseous if you drink alcohol. i’m sorry for your losses and it wasn’t your fault
Dkk
23:41
@atwatodbit: oh yeah it messes you up but you gotta embrace the emotional damage.
atwatodbit
23:41
@babycat: also not your fault. I'm sorry you are living with that; I know how it feels to love someone and hate the choices they make. it is truly the chronic disease. Know it is not up to you and your decisions are your own to make, but his are not yours to make. I'm very sorry. I hope your father gets well soon - but if he does not, know that hiw decisions are not your fault or credit - you're your own person and you can take responsibility for only yourself. alcholism sucks but is a thoroughly familial disease. recognizing it is its own act of individual agency.
Dkk
23:42
@babycat: Indeed! Same with my family!
Dkk
23:42
We both already know this though.
Dkk
23:42
wtf why is everyone saying they are white.
Dkk
23:42
I'm black irl.
atwatodbit
23:43
sorry thats way too much to type and very preachy. like i said I am inebriated (feeling the moral judgment of the condition but i think i do ok generally!)
@dkk also the reason im saying that is cause im super white irl. just how it goes
Dkk
23:44
I'm whiter than you. I guarantee it. Who cares. Man I have stumbled into a real wack liberal white guilt session.
Dkk
23:44
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Dkk
23:45
I really hope this isn't some sort of white devil self heating shit. I hate that shit more than anything.
babycat
23:45
Dk we’re talking about the impact of alcoholism on white people specifically. Use your big boy reading comprehension
JumpySubsequentDolphin
23:45
i don’t think white guilt pertains to alcoholism ?
Alright that's even more fucking racist given other races literally can not absorb alcohol as well.
atwatodbit
23:46
@dkk I don't hate myself or feel moral guilt over this stuff, but I do think its' just part of my life. lots of people in my life were totally destroyed by alcoholism and I guess that ways on me, whether I choose to drink or not. Just life dude! I don't think this is a strictly racial thing, I think this is a pretty human thing. but its up to you.
babycat
23:47
@atwatodbit: appreciate what you said, have a good night
@atwatodbit: Yeah, sleeeep it off. And you shouldn't feel guilty for the actions of others even if it leads to their deaths. Hell if I kept that mentaility I would feel guilty about like 8/9 people's deaths.
atwatodbit
23:50
@babycat:
@texaslawhopefully:
@m10:
goodnight to all of you! I don't feel guilty, I have learned to process but its always hard. I hope I feel ok in the morning too. Hope you all do well - most importantly, I hope we all do ok in our apps and get into schools we want to go to. I love you all as I love my common man