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Shively presumption

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A quick definition of Shively presumption:

Shively Presumption: The idea that if someone owned land before a state became a state, they don't automatically own the land under the water nearby. They have to specifically say they own it. This was decided in a court case called Shively v. Bowlby.

Equal-Footing Doctrine: When a new state joins the United States, it has the same rights and powers as the first 13 states that joined a long time ago.

A more thorough explanation:

The Shively presumption is a legal doctrine that states any prestatehood grant of public property does not include tidelands unless the grant specifically indicates otherwise. This means that if a grant was made before a state was admitted to the Union, it is assumed that the grant did not include the rights to tidelands unless it was explicitly stated in the grant.

For example, if a land grant was made to a person in 1850, before California became a state in 1851, it would be assumed that the grant did not include the rights to the tidelands unless the grant specifically mentioned it. This presumption was established in the case of Shively v. Bowlby in 1894 and has been upheld in subsequent cases.

The Shively presumption is based on the equal-footing doctrine, which states that any state admitted to the Union after 1789 has the same rights, sovereignty, and jurisdiction within its borders as the original 13 states. This means that any prestatehood grants must be interpreted in a way that is consistent with the state's equal footing with the original states.

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RoaldDahl
16:15
So if it means nothing does that mean something?
HopefullyInLawSchool
16:17
Possibly
RoaldDahl
16:26
Cool
RoaldDahl
16:26
thank you!!!! i hope it means something
pinkandblue
16:31
fart
IrishDinosaur
16:36
Mich R gang lesgooo
Did anyone else get that random get to know nova email?
HopefullyInLawSchool
17:21
Ya it was sent to all YM applicants
starfishies
17:37
Anyone get the NDLS email inviting you to apply for something even though they haven’t made a decision on your app yet
17:38
Better yet I got the email and I was rejected last month
starfishies
17:38
Wtf
starfishies
17:39
and the deadline is in like a week what is this
any cardozo movement?
BatmanBeyond
18:01
Sent a LOCI via portal, but I'm wondering if email would have gotten me a swifter response
BatmanBeyond
18:02
This whole hold/wait-list/reserve system is a headache
loci already?
BatmanBeyond
18:09
If the odds are like 1-2% I don't think it matters much by the numbers
12:11
I got the same NDLS email
OrangeThing
12:18
I think the user profiles are broken
19:29
Any word out of Notre Dame?
19:29
Only the invitation to apply for LSE
19:29
Anyone received a decision from NDLS?
19:50
when did u guys apply that just heard from umich? they havent even glanced at my app yet
0:30
how am i supposed to spy on people when profile links are broken?
Right. Broken links smh
I've been UR since first/second week of Jan, no updates otherwise, is that a bad sign? At or above median LSAT and above 75th gpa.
The profile links are not working for me. anybody else?
13:18
i’m in the same boat mastermonkey but with lower stats. i hope i hear back by mid march
CheeseIsMyLoveLanguage
13:24
@mastermonkey45: Looking at some of the recent decisions in relation to when they went complete, I'd say it's a good sign. It seems many declines were sent within about 5-6 weeks of completion. Given those were applications that were SENT in January, I'd say that means you're still solidly in the running. :)
14:30
Sent an app to OSU in early december and have STILL not heard back
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