HopefullyInLawSchool

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Rank	2024-2025	Result	App type	FW	Resident	Schol...	Sent	Sent raw	Received	Received raw	Complete	Complete raw	UR	UR raw	UR2	UR2 raw	II	II raw	Decision	Decision raw
36	Arizona State Univer...	Rejected	RDregular decision																Jan 10	2025-01-10
108	Chapman University	Accepted	RDregular decision			$183,858													Dec 11	2024-12-11
61	Loyola Marymount Uni...	Pending	RDregular decision
52	Pepperdine University	Pending	RDregular decision
145	Southwestern Law School	Accepted	RDregular decision			$132,000													Nov 27	2024-11-27
26	Texas A&M University	Pending	RDregular decision
82	Texas Tech University	Accepted	RDregular decision			$45,000													Nov 21	2024-11-21
55	UArizona	Accepted	RDregular decision																Jan 15	2025-01-15
82	UCalifornia (Hastings)	Accepted	RDregular decision			$60,000													Nov 18	2024-11-18
12	UCBerkeley	Rejected	RDregular decision																Nov 13	2024-11-13
55	UCDavis	Pending	RDregular decision
42	UCIrvine	Pending	ED➜RDearly decision deferred to regular decision
13	UCLos Angeles	Rejected	RDregular decision																Nov 12	2024-11-12
48	UColorado—Boulder	Pending	RDregular decision
46	UKansas	Accepted	RDregular decision			$45,000													Nov 21	2024-11-21
55	UOklahoma	Accepted	RDregular decision			$42,000													Oct 09	2024-10-09
68	USan Diego	Accepted	RDregular decision			$90,000									Dec 20	2024-12-20			Dec 20	2024-12-20
28	UUtah	Pending	RDregular decision
48	UWashington	Rejected	RDregular decision										Dec 10	2024-12-10	Dec 12	2024-12-12			Dec 20	2024-12-20

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HopefullyInLawSchool

15:59

Oh, when the hawks (when the hawks) Go tuah (tuah) Now, when the hawk go tuah (tuah) Yes, I want to spit on that thang When the hawk go tuah

texaslawhopefully

15:59

I mean the LSAT does have a pretty decent correlation with 1L grades.

ImpartialLion

15:59

If it's any indication, the class behind me is larger than our class. Just 1 school tho

texaslawhopefully

15:59

And combining LSAT + GPA leads to a correlation as high as .6.

oakenrays

16:00

@GreyCeaselessMammoth: I fully concur

oakenrays

16:00

at the very least the LSAT is a signifier of how serious you are about law school

HopefullyInLawSchool

16:01

I spoke with someone who went to law school in the 1970's they got an equal to what a 160 is today and got into UCLA law mostly full ride with housing stipend

GreyCeaselessMammoth

16:01

i was actually feeling myself getting more analytical and detail oriented as i studied for the lsat, i can't imagine how i'll feel after 1L

IrishDinosaur

16:02

i think we can only see the lsat as a valid test if study materials are free and available to all. If everyone has the capacity to learn it, then those with means to afford tutoring/resources have a considerable advantage

ImpartialLion

16:02

I get that lsat medians are sky high, but a 4 section test (1 experimental), in a very comfortable testing environment, AND you can shoot at it 5 times with no penalty

Water

16:02

It's impossible to derive any meaning from the LSAT other than someone is good at logic. If someone geta over like a 155 they essentially can be an attorney. It's just competitiveness after that and financial resources.

ImpartialLion

16:02

practically a different test than 10 years ago

suddy

16:03

I remember for undergrad, you needed a 4.0 and a 33+ ACT to be competitive for T20s. I think law school admissions will follow the same path, to where top stats are a baseline and it will become more holistic from there.

GreyCeaselessMammoth

16:03

if the lsat is anything like the SAT, studies show that it is less influenced by class than gpa is

HowlEngineer

16:03

at least places like 7sage have $1 complete prep courses if you have a LSAC fee waiver

ImpartialLion

16:03

@HowlEngineer: life changing

texaslawhopefully

16:03

@IrishDinosaur: That's fair, but I also think it's a better alternative than going off fancy resume lines or really tailored personal statements. For undergrad at least, there's research indicating test optional admissions leads to more socioeconomical inequities within admissions.

GreyCeaselessMammoth

16:03

think of how much more expensive it is to get a good gpa for four years than to get a good lsat

GreyCeaselessMammoth

16:03

you can pay people to write your personal statements, you can't pay someone to take the lsat for you (legally)

windyMagician

16:03

i am a $1 7sage success story lmao

IrishDinosaur

16:04

@texaslawhopefully: that makes a lot of sense too.

IrishDinosaur

16:04

hell yeah windy

HowlEngineer

16:04

My 2016 GPA would love to be inflation adjusted though

KnowledgeableRitzyWasp

16:04

@windyMagician: twinsies

ImpartialLion

16:04

@windyMagician: same here

IrishDinosaur

16:04

wish i knew about that thing back in august. I just studied out a book...

GreyCeaselessMammoth

16:05

7sage actually changed the tragectory of my life i think

KnowledgeableRitzyWasp

16:05

good enough to get UCLA with a fancy scholarship :)

suddy

16:05

I drilled the LawHub practice tests until I got better

windyMagician

16:05

yeah Epstein is a crazy good outcome

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